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	<title>Comments on: Tan Tarn How: The churches are silent</title>
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	<description>I&#039;m losing my religion</description>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that Singaporeans, in general, should be less cowardly and more daring to take a stand based on their beliefs/logic. Nobody can assume what does silence actually means and most people seem to take advantage of this ambiguity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that Singaporeans, in general, should be less cowardly and more daring to take a stand based on their beliefs/logic. Nobody can assume what does silence actually means and most people seem to take advantage of this ambiguity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenz</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennethism

reality is sad but simple. Condemning homosexual is a sure way to fire up congregations to achieve whatever goal that needs to be achieved. 

what happened when the threat of homosexuals are gone? idol worshipers ? (too scary to imagine the rest)</description>
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<p>reality is sad but simple. Condemning homosexual is a sure way to fire up congregations to achieve whatever goal that needs to be achieved. </p>
<p>what happened when the threat of homosexuals are gone? idol worshipers ? (too scary to imagine the rest)</p>
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		<title>By: Kennethism</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Kennethism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous faceless commenters are a no-count.

Why are the bishops, pastors and leaders still silent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous faceless commenters are a no-count.</p>
<p>Why are the bishops, pastors and leaders still silent?</p>
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		<title>By: Wakka</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Wakka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..it’s time for the silent majority to speak up and say, “We do not accept this. This sort of behaviour is incompatible with our faith.”&quot;
&quot;That time has come. Will they?&quot;

Yes, many of them spoke up. Comments from Temasekreview (whose readers are mostly left-wingers) have very mixed responds.. Many spoke up to back RT&#039;s derogatory wayang towards LGBTs. Luckily, amongst them, there are also quite a few apathetic and some even supporting. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..it’s time for the silent majority to speak up and say, “We do not accept this. This sort of behaviour is incompatible with our faith.”&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That time has come. Will they?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, many of them spoke up. Comments from Temasekreview (whose readers are mostly left-wingers) have very mixed responds.. Many spoke up to back RT&#8217;s derogatory wayang towards LGBTs. Luckily, amongst them, there are also quite a few apathetic and some even supporting. :)</p>
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		<title>By: anon1</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>anon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paper bag comment is from elsewhere, under a photo, not to do with this guy...error in cutting and pasting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper bag comment is from elsewhere, under a photo, not to do with this guy&#8230;error in cutting and pasting.</p>
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		<title>By: anon1</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>anon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from a BBC article about a few brave Christians standing against the violent and murderous religiously inspired homophobia in Africa; this pastor is in Kenya. He reminds me of a similar loving pastor in Singapore; it&#039;s a shame such people are so rare:

&#039;Love, not hate&#039;
There are small pockets of resistance within the religious community - but theirs is a hard fight.
Reverend Michael Kimundu served the Anglican Church in Mtwapa, Kenya, for 30 years.

To make his point, one gay Ugandan did a news conference in a paper bag
But recently the Church expelled him because leaders found out that he headed a religious organisation called The Other Sheep, which preaches tolerance towards gay people.
&quot;I am a preacher I should be spreading love, not hate - that is why I don&#039;t believe in treating the homosexual community with disdain,&quot; he says.
&quot;My Church didn&#039;t want to be associated with such beliefs.
&quot;Because of my stance I have had many people accuse me and many of the pastors I work with of being gay because we refuse to let this injustice continue.&quot;
Rev Kimundu says he has not had an income for some months, but says his sacking was a blessing.
&quot;I&#039;m free to minister and give counselling to whoever I want to now without worrying what conflict it will cause with my leaders,&quot; he says.
&quot;Educating the community and breaking the myths about homosexuality is my calling.&quot;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8528409.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from a BBC article about a few brave Christians standing against the violent and murderous religiously inspired homophobia in Africa; this pastor is in Kenya. He reminds me of a similar loving pastor in Singapore; it&#8217;s a shame such people are so rare:</p>
<p>&#8216;Love, not hate&#8217;<br />
There are small pockets of resistance within the religious community &#8211; but theirs is a hard fight.<br />
Reverend Michael Kimundu served the Anglican Church in Mtwapa, Kenya, for 30 years.</p>
<p>To make his point, one gay Ugandan did a news conference in a paper bag<br />
But recently the Church expelled him because leaders found out that he headed a religious organisation called The Other Sheep, which preaches tolerance towards gay people.<br />
&#8220;I am a preacher I should be spreading love, not hate &#8211; that is why I don&#8217;t believe in treating the homosexual community with disdain,&#8221; he says.<br />
&#8220;My Church didn&#8217;t want to be associated with such beliefs.<br />
&#8220;Because of my stance I have had many people accuse me and many of the pastors I work with of being gay because we refuse to let this injustice continue.&#8221;<br />
Rev Kimundu says he has not had an income for some months, but says his sacking was a blessing.<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m free to minister and give counselling to whoever I want to now without worrying what conflict it will cause with my leaders,&#8221; he says.<br />
&#8220;Educating the community and breaking the myths about homosexuality is my calling.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8528409.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8528409.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: anon1</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>anon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s harder to get bums on seats if you&#039;re being moderate and loving, rather than populist and right wing. Better cash flow in playing to myths and misconceptions, and peoples&#039; existing prejudices, than actually listening to what scientists, gay people, and their supporters have to say. 

Also, pastors who are more accepting of gays can get fired for not toeing the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s harder to get bums on seats if you&#8217;re being moderate and loving, rather than populist and right wing. Better cash flow in playing to myths and misconceptions, and peoples&#8217; existing prejudices, than actually listening to what scientists, gay people, and their supporters have to say. </p>
<p>Also, pastors who are more accepting of gays can get fired for not toeing the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Gentle Lamb</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentle Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally no response since you are calling to moderate Christians (which you called average and ordinary) which there are few. If you find a large moderate church, do tell us.

The ordinary and average Christians in SG is very conservative and right wing. Being moderate and liberal is highly abnormal and not popular at all in Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally no response since you are calling to moderate Christians (which you called average and ordinary) which there are few. If you find a large moderate church, do tell us.</p>
<p>The ordinary and average Christians in SG is very conservative and right wing. Being moderate and liberal is highly abnormal and not popular at all in Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Tan</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes he should be locked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes he should be locked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Tan</title>
		<link>http://kennethism.com/2010/02/23/tan-tarn-how-the-churches-are-silent/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I viewed Rony Tan&#039;s videos denigrating and making fun of Buddhist and hurling HATE against Gays and Lesbians I thought to myself what a Diabolical Man using his God to slender others....

I thought to myself this Evil Man is undoing all the Good Deeds of the Other Christian Leaders and Christians from the other Sects. and Denominations.  To me He is a Christian Taliban (a religious terrorist)...and should be locked up like Mat Selamat.

Strangely none of the Moderate Christians have come out to defend themselves which lends credence to this Evil Man&#039;s tirades.  Time the Ordinary and average Christian Leaders speak up for true Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I viewed Rony Tan&#8217;s videos denigrating and making fun of Buddhist and hurling HATE against Gays and Lesbians I thought to myself what a Diabolical Man using his God to slender others&#8230;.</p>
<p>I thought to myself this Evil Man is undoing all the Good Deeds of the Other Christian Leaders and Christians from the other Sects. and Denominations.  To me He is a Christian Taliban (a religious terrorist)&#8230;and should be locked up like Mat Selamat.</p>
<p>Strangely none of the Moderate Christians have come out to defend themselves which lends credence to this Evil Man&#8217;s tirades.  Time the Ordinary and average Christian Leaders speak up for true Christians.</p>
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